{"id":7360,"date":"2026-11-08T14:47:25","date_gmt":"2026-11-08T14:47:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/?p=7360"},"modified":"2026-11-08T14:47:25","modified_gmt":"2026-11-08T14:47:25","slug":"russian-117","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/russian-117\/","title":{"rendered":"Russian 117 Tomato Review &#038; Photos"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n<div class=\"kk-star-ratings kksr-auto kksr-align-left kksr-valign-top\"\n    data-payload='{&quot;align&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;7360&quot;,&quot;slug&quot;:&quot;default&quot;,&quot;valign&quot;:&quot;top&quot;,&quot;ignore&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;reference&quot;:&quot;auto&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;count&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;legendonly&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;readonly&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;score&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;starsonly&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;best&quot;:&quot;5&quot;,&quot;gap&quot;:&quot;5&quot;,&quot;greet&quot;:&quot;Share your rating&quot;,&quot;legend&quot;:&quot;0\\\/5 - (0 votes)&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;24&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Russian 117 Tomato Review \\u0026amp; Photos&quot;,&quot;width&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;_legend&quot;:&quot;{score}\\\/{best} - ({count} {votes})&quot;,&quot;font_factor&quot;:&quot;1.25&quot;}'>\n            \n<div class=\"kksr-stars\">\n    \n<div class=\"kksr-stars-inactive\">\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"1\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"2\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"3\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"4\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"5\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n<div class=\"kksr-stars-active\" style=\"width: 0px;\">\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>\n                \n\n<div class=\"kksr-legend\" style=\"font-size: 19.2px;\">\n            <span class=\"kksr-muted\">Share your rating<\/span>\n    <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"quick-take\" style=\"background: #eef9ee; padding: 16px; border-left: 5px solid #2e7d32; margin-bottom: 24px; border-radius: 4px;\"><strong>\ud83c\udf45 Quick take:<\/strong> <strong>Russian 117<\/strong> is a legendary <strong>indeterminate<\/strong> heirloom famous for cranking out massive, dense, <strong>fused double oxhearts<\/strong> tipping the scales at <strong>17 oz (484 g)<\/strong> or more. Northern growers consistently report heavy, dependable yields in high tunnels and open beds. A major talking point across community seed lines is foliage segregation: while historically a regular leaf (RL) variety, a stable potato leaf (PL) variant frequently pops up, often producing even larger, slightly sweeter pink-red fruit.<\/p>\n<p>Jump to: <a href=\"#plant-yield\">Habit, Fruit &amp; Yield \u2193<\/a> | <a href=\"#foliage-mystery\">The Potato Leaf Mystery \u2193<\/a> | <a href=\"#orange-russian-mixup\">Russian 117 vs Orange Russian 117 \u2193<\/a> | <a href=\"#late-season-harvest\">Harvests &amp; Yellow Shoulders \u2193<\/a> | <a href=\"#full-summary\">Full Summary \u2193<\/a><\/div>\n<h2>Growers&#8217; Notes and Photos (USDA Zones 3-5 Experience)<\/h2>\n<h3 id=\"plant-yield\">Plant Habit, Double Hearts, and Yield<\/h3>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">E<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">ElenaN (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (28,513 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kostroma, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Indeterminate slicing variety. Turned out mid-season for me, even though catalog write-ups lean toward late.<br \/>\nThe tomatoes are large to huge, flattened, fused double hearts. Dense, meaty, firm flesh, yet dripping with juice. As for flavor, it varied slightly through the season, but honestly had only two settings: very good and truly exceptional \ud83d\ude0b<br \/>\nThe vine grew in the sunniest spot in the greenhouse and reached 7.2 ft (2.2 m). Average foliage density. Yield was top-notch, it set every single flower on the truss without missing a beat. Outstanding variety!<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/41\/111-151114122415.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/41\/111-151114122415.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 giant double heart tomato on vine, posted by ElenaN\" width=\"509\" height=\"365\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/29\/111-050814111948.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/29\/111-050814111948.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 green fruit cluster, posted by ElenaN\" width=\"860\" height=\"1000\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/29\/111-050814111856.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/29\/111-050814111856.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 heavy truss, posted by ElenaN\" width=\"552\" height=\"764\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/19\/111-200614000056.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/19\/111-200614000056.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 developing fruit in greenhouse, posted by ElenaN\" width=\"606\" height=\"441\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">L<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Lidiya (Lidiya) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (16,152 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\ud83d\udc4d \ud83d\udc4d \ud83d\udc4d \ud83d\udc4d<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">E<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">ElenaN (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (28,513 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kostroma, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Follow-up pics. If the scale reading is tough to see, that fruit tipped the scale at 17 oz (484 g).<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/41\/111-151114122515.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/41\/111-151114122515.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 on kitchen scale weighing 484 grams, posted by ElenaN\" width=\"476\" height=\"388\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/41\/111-151114122500.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/41\/111-151114122500.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 cross section, posted by ElenaN\" width=\"358\" height=\"432\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/41\/111-151114122443.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/41\/111-151114122443.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 sliced beefsteak, posted by ElenaN\" width=\"513\" height=\"339\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">T<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">tomik (Tamara) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (3,337 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">What an absolute stunner \ud83d\udc4d I&#8217;ve got this exact variety slated for my garden beds this spring \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">G<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">GuLENA (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (20,067 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Took my breath away! Adding this straight to my must-grow list.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">S<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Sinor (Vitaliy) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (4,399 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Almaty, Kazakhstan (USDA Zone 5)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Here is the stunner I harvested. Russian 117. Juicy, super delicious, leaned more pinkish-red, and grew on potato leaf foliage.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/71\/10936-300615211536.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/71\/10936-300615211536.jpeg\" alt=\"Ripe Russian 117 tomato, posted by Vitaliy\" width=\"1000\" height=\"750\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">E<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">ElenaN (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (28,513 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kostroma, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Gorgeous! \ud83d\udc4d Vitaliy, once your plant with regular foliage ripens up, post a photo of that one too, please!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">M<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Mila (Lyudmila) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (8,523 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Moscow Region, Bulatnikovo, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">This variety completely blew me away with its production and rich flavor \ud83d\udcec \ud83d\ude0b\ud83d\ude0b\ud83d\ude0b\ud83d\ude0b<br \/>\nGrew under greenhouse cover. Big shoutout to Lena for the seeds! \ud83d\ude18\ud83d\ude18\ud83d\ude18\ud83d\ude18\ud83d\ude18<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/81\/94-080815092444.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/81\/thumb_94-080815092444.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 ripe fruit cluster, posted by Mila\" width=\"120\" height=\"160\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/81\/94-080815092400.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/81\/thumb_94-080815092400.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 harvest in basket, posted by Mila\" width=\"160\" height=\"120\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/81\/94-080815092529.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/81\/thumb_94-080815092529.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 sliced on plate, posted by Mila\" width=\"120\" height=\"160\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h3 id=\"foliage-mystery\">The Potato Leaf vs Regular Leaf Segregation Mystery<\/h3>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">P<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Plena (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (9,242 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Moscow Region, Solnechnogorsk, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Sowed three seeds (props to ElenaN \ud83d\ude4f). Two came up regular leaf and one sprouted potato leaf, so I planted out one of each.<br \/>\nThe potato leaf plant got stuck in the worst, most cramped spot in the house. Both turned out delicious, but the potato leaf plant actually gave slightly larger tomatoes and better overall yield. I am miles away from hitting Mila&#8217;s monster record weights, but my garden never produces real giants anyway.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">D<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Dzhina (Evgeniya) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (6,798 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Here is my Russian 117. Huge thanks to ElenaN for the seeds \ud83d\ude4f! Incredibly delicious tomato! Grew inside the greenhouse, foliage was regular leaf.<br \/>\nEdited October 9, 2015 by Drosera<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/78\/12423-280715074052.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/78\/thumb_12423-280715074052.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 ripe red oxheart, posted by Dzhina\" width=\"113\" height=\"160\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">E<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Elsha (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (1,117 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Voronezh, Russia (USDA Zone 5)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">My Russian 117:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/93\/thumb_12015-300915152925.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/93\/thumb_12015-300915152925.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 fruit on scale, posted by Elsha\" width=\"160\" height=\"120\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/93\/thumb_12015-300915153028.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/93\/thumb_12015-300915153028.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 beefsteak tomatoes, posted by Elsha\" width=\"160\" height=\"120\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h3 id=\"orange-russian-mixup\">Not to Be Confused with Orange Russian 117<\/h3>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">P<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Plena (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (9,242 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Moscow Region, Solnechnogorsk, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Lena, judging from the photo, yours looks an awful lot like Orange Russian 117 rather than straight Russian 117.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">E<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">elena1984 (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (7,703 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>Plena wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nLena, judging from the photo, yours looks an awful lot like Orange Russian 117 rather than straight Russian 117.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Elena, I think it&#8217;s just lighting\/camera glare. Orange Russian 117 is a true bicolor, while this is solid red with light reflection bouncing off the skin.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">P<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Plena (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (9,242 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Moscow Region, Solnechnogorsk, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Good catch, totally slipped my mind that Orange Russian is a bicolor \ud83d\ude33<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h3 id=\"late-season-harvest\">Late Season Performance, Pruning, and Yellow Shoulders<\/h3>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">S<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Sinor (Vitaliy) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (4,399 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Almaty, Kazakhstan (USDA Zone 5)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">One of my late autumn pullers, red Russian 117 on regular foliage.<br \/>\nPulled 14.3 lbs (6.5 kg) of ripe fruit off this single vine, plus another 4.4 lbs (2 kg) of green ones before frost. This pictured specimen was the absolute heaviest. Pretty sure with dedicated pruning and dialing in fertilizer early on, you could coax even bigger giants out of it.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/95\/10936-201015232509.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/95\/10936-201015232509.jpeg\" alt=\"Massive Russian 117 tomato fruit, posted by Vitaliy\" width=\"804\" height=\"1000\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">S<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Svetikk (Svetlana) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (29,842 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Moscow Region, Stupino District, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Incredible variety! Massive production \ud83d\udca5, delicious and gorgeous \ud83d\udc4d<br \/>\nRan it in the greenhouse trained to two leaders, indeterminate vine. Fruits are large, broad, fleshy red hearts, almost flat-round \ud83d\ude0b<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/86\/166-250815233134.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/86\/thumb_166-250815233134.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 sliced in half showing meaty interior, posted by Svetikk\" width=\"120\" height=\"160\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/86\/166-250815232958.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/86\/thumb_166-250815232958.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 whole fruit, posted by Svetikk\" width=\"160\" height=\"120\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">E<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">ElenaN (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (28,513 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kostroma, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Grew this one again in 2015. Starting seedlings from my saved seed, I noticed both regular foliage and potato leaf starts popped up in the trays.<br \/>\nLast season in the greenhouse, yield was heavier and fruit size ran bigger. This season I ran the plant outdoors in the open dirt, fruits were slightly smaller, but denser and even richer in flavor. Original seeds were sourced from Tatiana Kouchnareva.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/60\/111-040415051640.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/60\/thumb_111-040415051640.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 seedling flat showing potato leaf traits, posted by ElenaN\" width=\"160\" height=\"120\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/103\/111-241215013641.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/103\/111-241215013641.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 open ground harvest, posted by ElenaN\" width=\"449\" height=\"342\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/103\/111-241215013704.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/103\/111-241215013704.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 ripe tomatoes, posted by ElenaN\" width=\"455\" height=\"315\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">S<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Serg (Sergey) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (6,381 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kimry, Tver Region, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Out of three sprouts, two have potato leaf foliage, so I kept those two. No clue why I picked the potato leaf ones, but greenhouse space is tight and I only have room for two \ud83d\ude42<br \/>\nWhich one is supposed to be the &#8216;true&#8217; type?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">M<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Mila (Lyudmila) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (8,523 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Moscow Region, Bulatnikovo, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>Serg wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nWhich one is supposed to be the &#8216;true&#8217; type?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Sergey, true type has regular foliage \u2709\ufe0f\u2709\ufe0f\u2709\ufe0f\u2709\ufe0f<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">S<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Serg (Sergey) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (6,381 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kimry, Tver Region, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>Mila wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nSergey, true type has regular foliage \u2709\ufe0f\u2709\ufe0f\u2709\ufe0f\u2709\ufe0f<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\ud83d\ude22 \ud83d\ude22 \ud83d\ude22<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">O<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Olya Pskovishna (Olga) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Moderator (14,072 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Pskov, Russia (USDA Zone 4b)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Uh oh, all three of mine popped up with potato leaf&#8230; \ud83d\ude41<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">S<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Serg (Sergey) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (6,381 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kimry, Tver Region, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>Olya Pskovishna wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nUh oh, all three of mine popped up with potato leaf&#8230; \ud83d\ude41<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Olga! At least I had a shot at salvation! \ud83d\ude41<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">I<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">IrinaA (Irina) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (5,492 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Sverdlovsk Region, Russia (USDA Zone 3)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Mine also came up potato leaf. Where does it say that regular leaf is the only correct one?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">S<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Serg (Sergey) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (6,381 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kimry, Tver Region, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>IrinaA wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nWhere does it say that regular leaf is the only correct one?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Look at Elena&#8217;s seedling flat photo, clearly potato leaf there too.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">I<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">IrinaA (Irina) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (5,492 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Sverdlovsk Region, Russia (USDA Zone 3)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">There you go! That means potato leaf is totally legitimate! \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">P<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Plena (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (9,242 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Moscow Region, Solnechnogorsk, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Last season I had both types sprout from the same packet. Planted both, shoved the potato leaf plant into the darkest corner of the greenhouse. It ended up maturing a bit later (probably due to the shady spot), but the fruit was larger and noticeably sweeter \ud83e\udd37 That was my experience anyway.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">T<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">TatyanaSh (Tatyana) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (5,471 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Moscow Region, Ramensky District, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">All of mine came up standard regular leaf.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">D<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Drosera (Svetlana) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (5,415 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Yekaterinburg, Russia (USDA Zone 3)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>IrinaA wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nWhere does it say that regular leaf is the only correct one?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Check the historical profile at Tatiana&#8217;s TOMATObase:<br \/>\nhttps:\/\/tatianastomatobase.com\/wiki\/Russian_117<br \/>\nLeaf type: regular leaf.<br \/>\nWhat y&#8217;all are growing is basically an unreleased new spin-off: Russian 117 Potato Leaf \ud83d\ude03<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">S<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Serg (Sergey) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (6,381 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kimry, Tver Region, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Potato leaf it is then! \ud83d\ude03 Tossing healthy starts would be a sin. Just wish seed catalogs broke down leaf variation ahead of time.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">N<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Nik <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (1,732 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">All mine came up potato leaf \ud83d\ude09<br \/>\nRecently ran across a catalog note that literally read: &#8216;&#8230;foliage regular, potato type.&#8217; Guess depending on who writes it, potato leaf is considered regular somewhere!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">O<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Olya Pskovishna (Olga) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Moderator (14,072 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Pskov, Russia (USDA Zone 4b)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">I&#8217;ll wait and see what Elena says, but there&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m tossing these starts \ud83d\ude09<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">E<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">ElenaN (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (28,513 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kostroma, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Folks! The official, historical foliage type for Russian 117 is regular leaf.<br \/>\nI originally ordered my seeds from Tanya Kouchnareva. In year one, foliage matched the description 100%. In year two, planting out seeds saved from my own fruit, seedlings segregated into regular leaf and potato leaf. Feedback from last season showed growers who bought seeds from Valentina Redko ran into the exact same story.<br \/>\nMy take: the line is segregating. Sow extra seeds and select for standard foliage if you want true to type. In 2015, my potato leaf vine set fruit later than the regular leaf plant. The tomatoes on the potato leaf vine were pinkish-red rather than scarlet red. Flavor was pretty much identical.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/60\/111-040415051640.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/60\/thumb_111-040415051640.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 seedling flat, posted by ElenaN\" width=\"160\" height=\"120\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/115\/111-030416051422.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/115\/thumb_111-030416051422.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 seedling leaf comparison, posted by ElenaN\" width=\"139\" height=\"160\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">T<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">tomatinka (Vera) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (14,911 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Tyumen Region, Russia (USDA Zone 3)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">I&#8217;ve noticed across the board that potato leaf varieties tend to run later. When planning my garden beds, I stick mostly to regular leaf varieties. I only bother with potato leaf if the color or fruit shape can&#8217;t be found on a regular vine. Flavor might be superior, but in our harsh short-season climate they just don&#8217;t yield enough before frost.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">M<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Mila (Lyudmila) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (8,523 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Moscow Region, Bulatnikovo, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>Serg wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nPotato leaf it is then! \ud83d\ude03 Tossing healthy starts would be a sin. Just wish seed catalogs broke down leaf variation ahead of time.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Sergey, don&#8217;t you dare toss them \ud83d\ude1c<br \/>\nLast year I had German Giant show up with both potato leaf (true type) and regular leaf. Managed to plant the regular leaf start inside the greenhouse and the true potato leaf outside. That rogue regular leaf plant was an absolute beast of a producer \ud83d\udc4d\ud83d\udc4d\ud83d\udc4d\ud83d\udc4d Named it my &#8216;ultimate happy accident&#8217; \ud83d\ude0b\ud83d\ude0b\ud83d\ude0b\ud83d\ude0b\ud83d\ude0b\ud83d\ude0b You&#8217;re gonna do just fine with those starts \ud83d\udc4d\ud83d\udc4d\ud83d\udc4d\ud83d\udc4d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">D<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Drosera (Svetlana) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (5,415 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Yekaterinburg, Russia (USDA Zone 3)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>ElenaN wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nMy take: the line is segregating. Sow extra seeds and select for standard foliage if you want true to type.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Lena, an established, older heirloom shouldn&#8217;t just destabilize on its own. It&#8217;s far more likely an accidental bee pollination with an adjacent potato leaf variety slipped into the pedigree somewhere. What people are growing now isn&#8217;t 100% original Russian 117.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">E<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">ElenaN (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (28,513 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kostroma, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>Drosera wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nIt&#8217;s far more likely an accidental bee pollination with an adjacent potato leaf variety slipped into the pedigree somewhere.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Svetlana, that could very well be true. That means the outcross happened back in Canada, because both Valentina Redko and I bought seeds from Tanya the exact same season and ended up with the identical segregation.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">Z<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Zlato Leto (Elena Bessonova) <span class=\"author-stats\">\ud83c\udf31 Member (285 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Out of 9 seeds sowed, every single one came up potato leaf. Across the board.<br \/>\nAlso confused by the descriptions: folks write red, pink&#8230; but my packet is labeled Orange Russian 117 \ud83d\ude1c So which one is supposed to be correct?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">S<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Sweet (Svetlana) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (8,792 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Belgorod Region, Russia (USDA Zone 5)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Orange Russian 117 is an entirely separate variety, it&#8217;s a yellow-red bicolor oxheart.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">T<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">tomik (Tamara) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (3,337 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">I also sourced my seeds from Tatiana. Didn&#8217;t get a single potato leaf plant in my flats. Plant was a powerhouse producer!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">E<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">elena1984 (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (7,703 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>Serg wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nOut of three sprouts, two have potato leaf foliage, so I kept those two&#8230; Which one is supposed to be the &#8216;true&#8217; type?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Hey Sergey! Last season I ended up with one of each. Put the &#8216;proper&#8217; regular leaf plant inside the high tunnel and it flopped, produced sour, tiny ping-pong balls. Meanwhile, the rogue potato leaf went outside into the open garden beds and cranked out massive, gorgeous, true-to-form oxhearts. The line definitely split, so try it out yourself. This year my lone Russian 117 sprouted potato leaf again.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">E<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">elena1984 (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (7,703 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>Plena wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nBoth turned out delicious, but the potato leaf plant actually gave slightly larger tomatoes and better overall yield.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Elena, I sowed seed saved from your stock this spring and got a potato leaf plant \ud83d\ude09 Keeping it and planting it straight into the high tunnel \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">Z<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Zlato Leto (Elena Bessonova) <span class=\"author-stats\">\ud83c\udf31 Member (285 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Just checked my seedling markers. My bad! Orange Russian 117 belongs in a whole different discussion, and that plant has standard serrated regular foliage.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">T<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">tomik (Tamara) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (3,337 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Orange Russian 117 is definitely standard regular leaf \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">P<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Plena (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (9,242 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Moscow Region, Solnechnogorsk, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>elena1984 wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nElena, I sowed seed saved from your stock this spring and got a potato leaf plant \ud83d\ude09 Keeping it and planting it straight into the high tunnel \ud83d\ude42<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Lena, my seeds were harvested from a regular leaf vine originally sourced from ElenaN \ud83d\ude4f Kept saving from the true-to-type regular vine, and ran the potato leaf as a side trial. It was a really good trial though!<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">E<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">elena1984 (Elena) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (7,703 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Yep, remember that! That just confirms the line was segregating. Even from regular foliage, potato leaf keeps throwing offshoots. Loved the fruit on the potato leaf plant, so keeping it around even if it&#8217;s considered an off-type.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">S<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Serg (Sergey) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (6,381 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kimry, Tver Region, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>elena1984 wrote:<\/strong><br \/>\nThe line definitely split, so try it out yourself. This year my lone Russian 117 sprouted potato leaf again.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thanks Elena! Read your garden journal notes on it. Keeping the starts, growing them out, and I&#8217;ll post photos and updates \ud83d\ude4f\ud83d\ude4f\ud83d\ude4f<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">I<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">ilja (Ilya) <span class=\"author-stats\">\ud83c\udf31 Member (758 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Klinsky District, Moscow Region, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Loved this variety. Heavy cropper, super rich flavor, and sweet. Stretched to roughly 6 ft (1.8 m) inside the hoop house.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/attachments01\/65468_49e95f32fe685848110906bae3081f1825ffb7ca.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/attachments01\/65468_49e95f32fe685848110906bae3081f1825ffb7ca.jpg\" alt=\"Russian 117 large green fruit cluster, posted by Ilya\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/attachments01\/65470_acede1488833cb7a074ab598e4f4243e33bb74c2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/attachments01\/65470_acede1488833cb7a074ab598e4f4243e33bb74c2.jpg\" alt=\"Russian 117 vines in greenhouse, posted by Ilya\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/attachments01\/65472_1303f1e158d8529226fce543fd9eed2419069a80.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/attachments01\/65472_1303f1e158d8529226fce543fd9eed2419069a80.jpg\" alt=\"Russian 117 harvest on table, posted by Ilya\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">K<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Kirina (Irina) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (1,440 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Stupino District, Moscow Region, Russia (USDA Zone 4)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Hit 6 ft (1.8 m) in the greenhouse. Trained to two stems, every tomato grew large. Absolutely fell in love with it, growing it for the third season straight.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/202\/10189-041217160915.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/uploads\/newforum\/galleries\/202\/thumb_10189-041217160915.jpeg\" alt=\"Russian 117 cluster ripening on vine, posted by Irina\" width=\"124\" height=\"160\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">G<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Galinka (Galina) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (1,169 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Grew two plants this season: one potato leaf inside the greenhouse, one regular leaf out in the garden beds. Both were massive producers, but sadly both suffered from persistent green\/yellow shoulders \ud83d\ude41<br \/>\nTop-dressed wood ash twice and fertilized with potassium sulfate, but no luck. It breaks my heart because the tomato is incredible, but it just doesn&#8217;t cooperate with my soil \ud83d\ude22<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">D<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Drosera (Svetlana) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (5,415 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Yekaterinburg, Russia (USDA Zone 3)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Folks are sharing seeds from heterozygous plants (regular\/potato leaf) \ud83d\ude15<br \/>\nLast year I grew two plants with regular foliage from seed ElenaN sent \ud83d\ude4f Collected seeds, planted three this spring, and all three came up potato leaf.<br \/>\nClassic 3:1 Mendelian ratio where regular is dominant and potato leaf is recessive, though with micro sample sizes like 3 seeds you won&#8217;t see the exact statistical split.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">W<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">Werulek (Vera) <span class=\"author-stats\">\ud83c\udf31 Member (244 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Exact same story for me: out of three sowed, two sprouted potato leaf and one regular. Seeds came from Redko. No seed mix-up possible, all three germinated in the same starter cell.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"forum-post\">\n<div class=\"author-header\">\n<div class=\"forum-avatar\">K<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-meta\">\n<div class=\"author-name\">kinnergard (Nataliya) <span class=\"author-stats\">\u2b50 Pro Grower (2,707 posts)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"author-geo\">\ud83d\udccd Kotlas, Arkhangelsk Region, Russia (USDA Zone 3b)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content\">Started five seeds, all five germinated, and every single one is potato leaf. Sourced from Zolushka. By the way, the seedlings are robust and easily the stockiest starts among everything sown that same day.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"full-summary\" class=\"tldr-box\" style=\"background: #f4f9f4; padding: 20px; border-left: 5px solid #4CAF50; margin-top: 30px; border-radius: 4px;\">\n<h2 style=\"margin-top: 0;\">Full Summary: Russian 117 Plant Habit, Yield, and Leaf Variations<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>\ud83c\udf3f <strong>Plant &amp; Growth Habit:<\/strong> Indeterminate vine growing 6-7.2 ft (1.8-2.2 m) under greenhouse cover and slightly more compact outdoors. Foliage is traditionally regular leaf (RL), but an active potato leaf (PL) segregation is widely circulating. Responds exceptionally well to being trained to two leaders.<\/li>\n<li>\ud83c\udf45 <strong>Fruit Character:<\/strong> Large, flattened, double or fused hearts weighing anywhere from 12 oz up to 17 oz (484 g) and beyond. Solid, meaty flesh with minimal gel, small seed cavities, and a rich, sweet, classic beefsteak punch. Potato leaf variants often lean pinkish-red rather than deep scarlet.<\/li>\n<li>\ud83d\udcc8 <strong>Yield:<\/strong> Exceptionally high. Sets full trusses without dropping blossoms in high tunnels. Open-ground plants can yield up to 14.3 lbs (6.5 kg) of ripe fruit plus late green harvests off a single vine.<\/li>\n<li>\u26a0\ufe0f <strong>Nutrient &amp; Shoulder Management:<\/strong> Susceptible to yellow or green shoulders under intense heat or in potassium-deficient soils. As noted by Galina, standard wood ash and potassium sulfate amendments may be required in heavy or cold soils to ensure uniform ripening across the shoulders.<\/li>\n<li>\ud83c\udf0e <strong>Grower Climate:<\/strong> Thoroughly proven across USDA Zones 3b, 4, and 5 (Northern Russia, Urals, and Siberia to Kazakhstan), making it a top-tier large oxheart slicer for short northern seasons.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"add-review-cta\" style=\"margin: 20px 0; padding: 15px; background: #f9f9f9; border-left: 4px solid #4CAF50; border-radius: 4px;\"><strong>\ud83c\udf45 Grown Russian 117?<\/strong> <a href=\"#wpdcom\">Did your batch throw regular leaf or potato leaf foliage? Drop your seed source, fruit weights, and photos in the comments below!<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"editor-note\" style=\"background: #eef7ff; padding: 15px; border-left: 4px solid #2196F3; margin-top: 15px; font-size: 0.9em;\"><strong>\ud83d\udc68\u200d\ud83c\udf3e Editor&#8217;s Note: Russian 117 Lineage and Leaf Segregation<\/strong><br \/>\nOriginally brought to widespread attention by the late heirloom seed saver Chuck Wyatt and documented by Seed Savers Exchange, <em>Russian 117<\/em> is historically an indeterminate, regular-leaf (RL) red oxheart.<\/p>\n<p>The persistent appearance of potato-leaf (PL) plants throughout Russian seed lines traces back to heterozygous parent stock shared among major seed collectors. Because the gene for potato foliage is recessive, cross-pollination by bees in open trial gardens can remain silent until F2 seed produces the classic 3:1 Mendelian split observed here.<\/p>\n<p>Note: Russian 117 should not be confused with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/orange-russian-117\/\"><em>Orange Russian 117<\/em><\/a>, a distinct regular-leaf red\/yellow bicolor oxheart bred by Jeff Dawson by crossing Russian 117 with Georgia Streak.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\ud83c\udf45 Quick take: Russian 117 is a legendary indeterminate heirloom famous for cranking out massive, dense, fused double oxhearts tipping the scales at 17 oz (484 g) or more. Northern growers consistently report heavy, dependable yields in high tunnels and open beds. A major talking point across community seed lines is foliage segregation: while historically &#8230; <a title=\"Russian 117 Tomato Review &#038; Photos\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/russian-117\/\" aria-label=\"Read more about Russian 117 Tomato Review &#038; Photos\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":7360,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,94,67],"tags":[1670,1672,1671,30,1573],"class_list":["post-7360","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-beefsteak-large-slicers","category-heirloom-other","category-oxheart-tomatoes","tag-chuck-wyatt","tag-double-heart-tomato","tag-giant-slicer","tag-heavy-yielder","tag-heirloom-oxheart"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7360","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7360"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7360\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7361,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7360\/revisions\/7361"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7360"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7360"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7360"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomat-pomidor.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7360"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}