I will also try to grow this variety in the upcoming season.
Three little seedlings are growing. All three are cute, quite sturdy. Only in height do they lag behind other varieties by about a third. Is it supposed to be like this, or am I not giving them enough of something?
Same for me. They look very much like seedlings of determinates (bush tomatoes).
And on a cold day they got chlorosis, weak seedlings.
It seems the plants are supposed to become vigorous and tall. I was also expecting leggy seedlings.
Maybe they will shoot up later!
Inna, this is an old photo. I sowed on March 10. I took the photo because the surprising size of the seedlings amazed me then too.
Here it is in the center in the foreground:
It got over the chlorosis and recovered. You can see that it’s still tiny, and the bush shape looks like a determinate.
Maybe the artificial lighting affects it that way. Nowhere to stretch, so it just gets sturdier.
Mine are growing in Spartan conditions on a cool windowsill, outside of which it has been constantly cloudy this spring, so they don’t look like determinates at all.
If the fruit color varies, then the variety is unstable. Personally, I believe such things shouldn’t be added to the catalog. Even if we aren’t the State Registry, I know many people rely on our catalog when choosing. Entering all sorts of family and self-named varieties into it is, to say the least, unprofessional. Let’s not turn the catalog into a garbage dump.
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Let’s not turn the catalog into a garbage dump.
Watch your language, think first before you write.
Edited April 26, 2018 by Drosera
Actually, here it is:
Zurabchik (on the right) and for comparison Yee Chan’s Uncle’s Oxheart (on the left). Sowed and pricked out at the same time. Took the photo today.
I’ll speak on Zurabchik! A worthy variety, such large beefsteaks, the color — well, it’s even hard to describe — raspberry-pink and with orange… There! And it seemed like a completely stable variety to me. And yes, the girls here are confused — it’s not very tall at all, closer to a determinate, but in my greenhouse it didn’t top out (stop growing), it just kept growing upwards. But definitely a semi-determinate. I planted it in the highest raised bed, and it was the shortest one there, exactly the same height as Natalia’s Watermelon. They could have been planted in the side beds. The height was 1.20-1.30 m (4-4.2 ft) and certainly no taller than 1.50 m (5 ft) 😉
Girls, thanks for the timely warning. I will be re-tailoring my planting plans.
I have everything in open ground, but dets and indets are in completely different places. Otherwise, I had it listed simply as an indet, and in the seedling stage, it really isn’t very tall yet.
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**** A normal person seriously engaged in collecting varieties, seeing this in the catalog, will simply never look into it again. Aren’t there enough of these varieties from all sorts of charlatan sellers, found by hermit Old Believers accidentally wandering into the mountains of Tibet and stealing a single fruit from meditating lamas. If the goal of the catalog is to collect all the garbage from the net, and not to compile a truly authoritative guide for enthusiasts, then go right ahead. I’ll be quiet.
😲😲😲 Well, now it’s clear where the “wind is blowing from”…
Svetlana (Drosera) is indeed right.
I want to remind you once again that the variety “from Zurab Kukhianidze” is an old family variety of the Kukhianidze family, the seeds of which were saved by our forum member Nelli !!!
Here is how Nelli herself writes about it ))) … this variety is from Georgia, that’s where my husband’s roots are. His father used to grow this variety even here in the Moscow region, about 5 years ago, in a greenhouse…
They always turned out tasty, meaty, and very large… but these seeds themselves came directly from Georgia, they must be about 15 years old 😲
His father didn’t save seeds from his Moscow-acclimatized ones for some reason…
So, she and I wanted to do a good deed 😞 she sent me these seeds to revive (those Georgian ones, which were about 15 years old…), I grew them out and she and I started distributing the seeds of this variety further… the variety was not lost, but remained as a memory of her relatives from Georgia!
What is wrong here again??? 🤔 Why is someone always itching to complain??? And why recently has filling the forum catalog become the prerogative of certain individual forum members? 🤔
I’ll also speak my mind, let the moderator clean it up later…
Natalia Pavlovna, Nellechka, and all other forum members who are engaged in resurrecting old family heirloom varieties, a huge thank you for adding them to the catalog!!!!! You can easily find information on the variety!
Mikhail, we are not the State Registry; if you don’t want to, then don’t look at the family varieties!
But many! Very many people need this!
Planted ZK one bush per different greenhouses. As I wrote above, initially the seedlings were shorter than the rest. Now in their permanent spot, I think they are vigorously catching up to their neighbors and getting stronger right before my eyes (knock on wood).
I plan to train it to two stems, but we’ll see how it actually turns out.
My Zurab Kukhianidze, seeds from Ninulia 🌺🌺🌺
And here is my Zurab Kukhianidze, 670g (1.5 lbs) (Thanks to Natashenka Borisovna) 🌺🌺🌺
Yesterday we picked a Zurab weighing 820 g (1.8 lbs).
My tomato from Zurab Kukhianidze (seeds from Svetikk) this year is shaping up to be the open-ground champion:
Yesterday it still weighed 602 g (1.3 lbs), today it “lost weight” a little bit. A specimen saved for seeds.
Here is my Zurab, grew in open ground without shelter. Excellent variety! These two tomatoes are from one bush, and there were smaller ones on it too. Regarding the color, red or raspberry-pink, I would say this: at first it is red, and then it starts turning raspberry-colored from the bottom.
Natalia Pavlovna perfectly described these tomatoes. Large, there were practically none under 300 grams (10.5 oz), tasty! Mine turned out plump, with folds and “chubby cheeks”, dark pink color. True, they were quite late.
Natalia Pavlovna, thank you for the seeds!
I also grew this Variety last season. Thanks to Ninulia for the seeds.
Two bushes grew in the greenhouse and one in open ground. I liked the tomato very much. It grew in both places trained to 4-5 stems, was productive and very tasty. Such a pronounced tomato flavor with moderate sweetness. The fruits were almost identical in size, whether on the lower or upper trusses. Yes, it was mid-season, which is actually a good thing. When other large-fruited varieties started getting smaller, this one just started ripening. In open ground, it ripened earlier.
This photo is the last harvest before removing the bushes from the greenhouse. You can see that practically all the tomatoes remained large.
